Protest against shooters

[:1]This is a part of a belgian newsshow. Some small parts of it are in dutch, but the main part (the interviews) are in english.

http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuw...7085/1.1089521

I'm not sure what to think about it. In some ways their message seems right and correct and indeed important. But offcourse showing this message in such an invading way will provoke the worst of replies, thus losing part of the message.

When commenting, please keep it nice|||It just buffers for me, so I wait. Then it buffers some more. It never actually loads, so the video is unwatchable for me. But based upon the image that was on the video while it was trying to load, I'm going to guess it is drawing comparisons to real life and video games, as far as FPS are concerned.

I will refrain from commenting until the video either works for me, or someone summarizes it.|||Same here, the video never gets to working. I'm assuming this is some sort of protest against shooter video games, not shooter-humans in reality? Oh well.|||Quote:








Same here, the video never gets to working. I'm assuming this is some sort of protest against shooter video games, not shooter-humans in reality? Oh well.




If that's the case, then I don't agree with them. Shooting games are not real life. And if you are the type that will go do something because you did it in a video game (ie: go shoot someone), then you are a moron and the ONLY people that should be punished are those that try to blame video games on their bad judgement or mistakes.

If that's not the video is about, then you can just simply ignore this post. |||The video is about 3 artists who (atleast 2 of them) use shooters as the gallery for their installation.

The first guy logs into America's Army, joins a server, drops his weapon and starts writing names of soldiers who died in Iraq in the chat. Offcourse the interview then goes to focus on all the replies the guy gets, some of which are offcourse pure trolling.

The second person, a woman runs the site velvet-strike. She made art with the grafitti option in counterstrike. On the site she describes ways to disturb the game, like logging in with a group of people and go stand still in a square in the shape of a heart.

The third guy was and Iraqi living in America. He ran an art project where he locked himself into a room, with a paintball gun that was controllable from the website kill-an-iraqi.com.

I posted the link after seeing the first 2 interviews. They were sure too spark the most reaction as these people, as a part of art, actively disturb the game some people are playing.|||Ok, now I understand.

I understand the WHYS, but I don't agree with the second one at all.

The third one doesn't bother me at all, since it's not even FPS related.

The first one doesn't either, since it's one guy typing names of dead soldiers. However, I don't think it's necessarily fair to say all the responses he got were "trolling". In fact, wouldn't HE be the troll? It seems to me, even though he has good intentions, he is trying to get a reaction out of people. Don't get me wrong, I think it's neat that he took the time to do what he did. But you can't expect to NOT get a reaction, regardless of how extreme.

The second one is the dumbest one of all. If I saw that happen in a server I was in, I'd try to get everyone else in the server who is actually playing and go on a kill fest. Either that, or I'd just leave and go to a different server. Why would you even bother buying the game if you aren't even going to play it? You're kidding me right? You bought the game JUST to protest?

I'm not so sure I'd call them artists either. Art is paintings, sculptures, music. Not protesting in video games. Who calls that art, seriously. If they call that art, can I claim that I'm making art every time I load up Guild Wars?|||Wait, being a jerk counts as art now? 1st and 2nd can easily pass as trolls, even if they say it's art.

3rd one sounds funny, not sure I'd call it art though.|||Belgian streaming sites, for some reason they almost never work outside the Benelux area.

Anyway I don't see what these people are trying to accomplish, especially the second one. Join a game with a group of people and stand in a heart formation? Uhh ok, all that's going to do is to make people change server. The guy typing names is no different from someone who is just spamming the chat.

Their message is in no way right or correct. They are just destroying people's leisure time. Imagine if you are watching a horror movie and suddenly a text "ghosts don't really exist" pops up on the screen. That's what these people are doing.|||They should realize things like that don't work on the internet, the first one will just be seen as troll, and any responses he gets will just be trolling back. The second one will just be giving the other team free kills, or if they have enough people they'll be the only ones on the server after a few minutes.

The third one is kind of interesting, but the internet being the internet someone will be shooting at the guy 24/7 just to prove people are *******s.

By the way the video doesn't work for me either, but other videos on the site do.|||Quote:








3rd one sounds funny, not sure I'd call it art though.




As an artist myself, I get pissed off at a lot of what people consider art. This is one of those instances.